Role Ban Appeal

frostwight

Your SS14 Username: frostwight

Banning Admin's Username: Gttheglorious

Role Ban or Server Ban: Role ban

Round ID (if applicable): 3469

Reason for Ban: "Restrained a suspect for half an hour as HoS without sentencing or imprisoning"

What lead up to the ban: Eneka was already suspected for ID theft (HoS ID), and was imprisoned previously for unrelated crimes; found a door broken into in sec and scanned it--mysterious fibers. now, im unsure if "mysterious fibers" is mindshielded, as this is not mentioned anywhere, but considering everything surrounding it, we figured that Eneka was a thief. i got a new ID and arrested him after finding those same fibers on his gloves. brought him to sec peacefully (didnt cuff him) and watched my ID disappear, and watched his icon change for a moment on the sechud. mike was there too, unsure if he saw the change. so I cuffed him and told him to give my ID back. he kept playing stupid, and i didnt have an ID, and there were people going crazy at the sec doors because i took jimbo's omega soap (he kept using it to disrupt sec), so mike was overwhelmed. eneka kept breaking his cuffs which added to the sentence (breach of arrest) and tried to enter dispo. he also used his comms to incite mutiny. All that is perma-able. but again, no ID so no sentencing could be done. couldnt leave. the only one answering on command comms was the CMO, everyone else was dead silent. we were going to check Eneka for an implant because of the VERY MYSTERIOUS disappearance of my ID after i watched it enter his hands. CMO didnt wanna do it, which is fair, but we asked NTR and got no response. riot breaks out at sec front, multiple people breaking in, mike and i are overwhelmed, i cant leave because i dont have an ID, i keep telling Mike to open the doors and to help deal with the rioters, he doesnt seem to hear me because chat is busy or something, until way later.

Why you should be unbanned:
due to the fact there was a riot going on, including many other factors, just letting eneka free after inciting a mutiny and breaching arrest felt like a stupid idea, but i couldnt get him to perma so i didnt have any choice but to hold him there until he coughed up my ID, which he didnt. there was too much going on against me and mike to say what i did was abuse

frostwight

i should add on that it is the warden's responsibility to enact sentencing on detained individuals; tay said "a HoS shouldnt be sentencing people if a warden is there, i recommend that the HoS leaves the warden the hell alone"
and i kind of heavily internalized that.
however, since eneka had my id, i wanted to get it out of him too. but mike was too busy and overwhelmed to do anything with him

Leo

Sorry if this is "peanut-posting" or an overstep.
I was there that round, Sec really did have a hard time. Between Eneka, who really did turn out to be a thief, the people gathering in front of Sec making a mess. Multiple bombing incidents. Understaffed security.
The cries of shitsec definitely did not help the situation too.
What happened definitely isn't ideal but i'd wager was not done maliciously or even intentionally.

mike

yea mike here um I don't really think this was our fault we had been basically harassed the whole round by eneka and it was just really overwhelming for only 2 sec 1 of which was the warden to deal with like 5+ people rioting outside sec the whole thing was a cluster fuck i really don't think they did anything wrong yea i probly could have been doing better and shit that's my fault but really we should have just implant check eneka im not even sure why cmo said no but yea we had been completly and utterly accosted by the crew even on evac i had to throw a stinger and a flahs bang into a crowd of people on evac im not really sure what else to say

frostwight

would also like to add another bit of context: in space law it states that LEADERS of a RIOT can have crimes that the rioters commit added to their sentence. eneka, at the very beginning of his custody, had said "I say mutiny" over his comms, which effectively makes him the leader of said riot. multiple breakins, attacks, a borg ordered to "kill all of security", ALL under the umbrella of eneka calling for mutiny, could have honestly escalated his sentence up to Execution with the captain's permission. at the end of the day, YES, he should have been put in a cell. NO, that is not my job, and NO, mike is not at fault either due to ALL of the shit going on. i feel like the role ban was made without the context of that last 50-ish minutes of the round and everything being taken into account. at the absolute worst, this should have remained an IN-CHARACTER issue and not escalated to a weeklong roleban.

taydeo

Hi, I'll be handling this appeal.

I was an admin during the round prior to me leaving. I witnessed some of the events that took place and do agree that there was a lot going on with Security, especially with riots being promoted and the Warden essentially having to do the job of a security officer near the end of my admin stay.

Considering these extenuating circumstances, I will be going ahead and lifting this role ban.