funky station

I had been told by admins in the past, back when alot of this discussion was informal in the discord engi thread (which is now kill), that 100mpa was the legal limit for piping of any kind - and that a subframe (A piping solution which is capable of infinite storage) would be fine so long as it obeyed this limit.

However, recently- today in fact- an admin messaged me in game shortly after I was RR'd that the 100mpa "limit" is actually just a rule of thumb for admins to spot subframing; and that subframing in general is in fact always forbidden regardless of this figure.

Which of course is distinctly not what I had been told in the past when I attempted to get solid answers.

So now that we have this big 'ol official-y forum where answers and posts are immortal and never buried - can we please get an official ruling on this? Preferably one which can be ensconced somewhere in the actual official rules for the server available in the guidebook- even if it means a new section is added- so that all debate on the matter is settled now and forever.

While we're at it - a general consensus on atmos rules in general would also be good. A layout of the terms and their discrete definitions, and what is or is not explicitly allowed.

As a preface to that, I will say that you can't really "ban" device ordering without basically banning the majority of atmospherics in general. Ordering is the literal foundation of the entire atmos system, and if you try to "ban" it you'll end up banning people who don't even know their setup is ordered because it just happened to lay out that way. And if you try to force it to be random always, you turn atmos from the complex system of interaction that it is and which has drawn so many into a relatively stagnant and boring system where literally only one single thing works.

That one thing being a "monoloop" - otherwise, a system where all devices are in "one" direction. IE there are no backflows, turns, twists, loops, etc. Its just a bunch of devices in a "straight line" (at least from a mechanical standpoint, the "line" could be a piece of spaghetti, but the key is that it never actually crosses itself at any point. Gas never "hops" from one part to any other part besides the one that is next in sequence or the very beginning of the "loop")

With "true random" ordering, all systems that aren't monoloops become intrinsically uncontrollable - thus all the intricacies of every gas reaction which makes them so fun to mess around or play with become irrelevant as you lose any and all ways of actually interacting with them. Reactions are simply too chaotic to interact with without device order.

The preferable alternative, of course, would be to rework atmospherics entirely so that order is no longer "needed" - but that is a herculean task which I am certainly not capable of and which frankly I doubt can even be truly done. At least not in a way that won't cook people's computers, since its sort of a computational problem that actual irl scientists have grappled with for decades.

a general consensus on atmos rules in general would also be good.

Exploits are not allowed on Funky. Using atmos devices in a specific order so you achieve infinite storage is an exploit. That's the consensus, doing exploits is not allowed.